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Using these images as inspiration, share how you would like intensification to help us connect — with our neighbours, our families and the community.

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  • cayjungrl 11 months ago
    So I am just curious how the transit system is going to be revamped to accommodate all the increased traffic and extra passengers. The bus system in Barrie is THE WORST. Buses need to run minimally every 15 mins and run every 30 minutes after 9 pm at the earliest. The transit system needs to have shelters and if the current supplier cannot meet the demand or the cost us too high at $10,000./ shelter, then have them built here in Barrie. This in turn will create jobs. Any changes in routes should not just be shoved down transit riders throats either like last transit system revamp "folly". Ask the riders, involve us in planning. Ask the drivers, they are the face of Barrie Transit and are on front lines taking brunt of complaints from riders. Use their experience and knowledge, they are the ones who know the city best.
  • sam 6 months ago
    We need to apply stricter urban design guidelines for the industrial parts of the city. This could include showrooms at street level, decorative design elements, privately-owned public spaces (POPS) and streetscaping. The wide expanse of industrial uses in Barrie has create a gaping hole of depressing concrete boxes with large mostly empty parking lots facing the street, right in the middle of the city. Ideally, if we could rezone some of the area as mixed use industrial, that would add life to the existing barrenness. But aesthetic improvements and placemaking initiatives without rezoning could help as well.
  • Aleks 7 months ago
    If we want to develop walkability, to apply green technologies, to intensify urban spaces, the best practice to do that is don't try to change existing built-up areas but make stress on developing of new lands (ban for new single-family houses subdivisions in urban limits). By this, there are more chances the new infrastructure, more attractive, walkable, and safe, will be created and the process of relocation and a process of change of city face will start on its own.
  • Aleks 7 months ago
    Intensification through destroying of public spaces and building up existing small business areas (for example, the intersection of Duckworth Street and Grove Street East) is mistaken. The city needs to find a way how to replace the areas of subdivisions, lanes of parcels with the single-family houses by new infrastructure: mixed-use medium-high buildings, public spaces, transit lines. It supposed to be a housing relocation and exchange program at least. Without that the new official plan will remain on paper.Furthermore, whilst world capitals (Oslo) ban their downtowns from cars, the city considers projects where too much attention pays how to keep a volume of traffic on parallel streets if the central one to transform in a pedestrian walkway (Dunlop Street East). The team will achieve more goals if will generate more creative ideas considering a sight over 30-40 years.
  • svroyal 7 months ago
    Agree with many comments below on the growth of walking and biking opportunities. I appreciate when pathways aren’t just on the side of the roads. Pathways can be weaved throughout so that there are ways to connect roads that cars can’t travel. Cars on Mapleview for example aren’t looking for pedestrians or cyclists. Shortcuts for walkers would be great! Downtown Barrie is also a 20 minute drive for us so we are unlikely to go to the library or cultural events happening downtown. If more events were held throughout the city you’d keep options open for more people. Even a book return drop at the community centres would make library use easier for many.
  • Dan McLeod 7 months ago
    I believe that Barrie needs to focus on affordable housing and affordable rental properties. But they need to do it in a synchronous way. Build new developments that have rentals, ownership and maybe even retirement living as a cohesive unit. Ensure that we do not build all rentals or all condos in certain areas. The new development planned for Dunlop/Bradford street should not be all rentals. This could easily be a synchronized community. Also as we develop the downtown core we need to ensure we plan for basic needs that are within walking distance such as schools and grocery store.
  • robb 8 months ago
    Intensification equally spread through each ward, away from arterial and collector roads will help create more inclusive and diverse communities. The current nodes and corridors approach is creating more barriers than we already have with the 400 and Kempenfelt Bay. If we really want to connect our community with one another and to nature, than bike lanes, walking paths and equal distribution is critical for success.Empower people to age in place with local markets and amenities in each ward, supplemented by regular transit service 365 days/yr. No more clustering of Big Box stores, through policy encourage smaller footprint local shops and markets to truly enable community connection to foster and grow.Allowing people to safely choose bicycling to go places will also connect citizens to nature, to each other and to the value of their transportation choices.
  • Downtown Millenial over 1 year ago
    To intensify the downtown core, I believe we need to look at what services those people will need..A GROCERY STORE is the biggest lacking element to our downtown.A walkable grocery store for the downtown residence should be a top priority before encouraging developers to be building up in my opinion. Grocery stores are also hubs for community and could be a very large draw for an aging condo population that doesn't need to get into a car to grab some butter and milk.
  • C.Law 11 months ago
    Harnessed spaces.. respect for the history of established neighborhoods..maintain their integrity..its all we have left.. our heritage buildings are gone ..lets not destroy neighborhoods..their trees..places for cars to park..dogs and people to walk..
  • Chantale 12 months ago
    More cultural events: specifically about a people's culture to reflect growing diversity as well as arts. Neighborhood events to build a sense of community. More biking lanes across the City.
  • bwah2261 12 months ago
    I would like to see our planning foster a city where there is easy access (walking and biking to) many or most of the things we require: groceries, restaurants, cultural activities, medical and government offices, etc. Create streetscapes that encourage strolling, mix residential types and integrate demographic types into that to avoid ghettos of any kind. Perhaps even mix industrial and residential forms in close proximity to allow people to walk to work.
    • Admin Commented Eterry 12 months ago
      Thank you for your comments. The City is working to create complete streets and compact development to encourage active transportation (walking, cycling…) and transit use. The New Official Plan project is exploring how we should think about our employment uses in the future and how we can create a more inclusive community that encourages a mix of housing types.
  • AmandaM over 1 year ago
    I live in the downtown core of Barrie. We are young professionals and are raising a young family. We absolutely love that our home is central to everything Barrie has to offer. However, being in this area does not come without some faults...we are lacking in a quality grocery store that is within walking distance. The walk from where we are to downtown shops and restaurants is less than ideal...the streets are dirty, we have to pass a methadone clinic and a well known corner for prostitution, etc. I would love to see more green public spaces throughout the area. A farmer's market with longer hours or also offered on Sunday...with extracurriculas for kids it can be tough to make the short window in Saturday.I am excited to see how Barrie (downtown in particular) grows over the next 5 to 10 years
  • Greg Lubianetzky over 1 year ago
    Who remembers the H-Block proposals?I believe our downtown would be a far different and far better place had this or a similar development been completed. The current downtown is lovely and getting better. But property directly adjacent (away from the lake from the downtown core) is under-used. Medium density residential matched with usable, *walkable* commercial (grocery, hardware, restaurants etc.) is what makes a city centre viable. Currently downtown businesses depend on drive-there patronage which is not bad, however it takes a lotto convince most consumers to bypass the “Golden Mile” and/or the south end shopping ghettos to head downtown. And when they get there, they get what they need, hop in the car and leave. With more concentration of residential in and near the core, people will walk or perhaps cycle and *connect* with the city around them. If you’ve ever lived in a walkable community you will understand the feeling that comes out of having almost everything you require within walking distance. It doesn’t take much to approach a Bohemian feel to a neighbourhood. Please continue the work to connect the lake with downtown. The Fred Grant Square renovation/rehabilitation is a stunning example of this. Walking/cycling anywhere near there when downtown pulls you to the lake, and from the lake you are drawn up the gentle slope to downtown. To complement this, the lake-facing rear of the Dunlop St. buildings need rehabilitating. Storefronts facing the lake - not a new concept. This further cements the connection between our lakefront and our downtown. Cut the lakeshore speed limit to 20kph for that very short distance to facilitate pedestrian comfort and add pedestrian right-of-way crossings to ease movement in both directions. Currently, while it may be tempting to move downtown to the lake or vice versa, the often busy and fast-moving road in between is too much of a physical and psychological barrier. For that matter, 30kph on the whole of Dunlop St. from Blake St. to the fire hall is not unreasonable with additional signalled, pedestrian operated crosswalks. It may well get people out of their vehicles and allow them to feel comfortable and welcome doing so. Promote street buskers out there whenever the seasons dictate! Close Bayfield St. from Collier to the lakeshore. This could be a permanent pedestrian mall of sorts and it would solve the brutality that is the Five Points intersection. Like Fred Grant Square, it could be designed to serve as a 2-way funnel between downtown and the lake front.
  • Logan J over 1 year ago
    The places we travel to and enjoy spending time in are not uniform subdivisions of cookie cutter homes with a garage out front, we must make more of an effort to build up civic spaces and allow for unique development forms including rear laneways, urban forests, reducing or eliminating the 'greenspace' that are truely wastelands including zoning minimum yard requirements, boulevards, etc. - make them an actually useful space that doesn't just grow dandelions.Walking and biking and then transit should be the first forms of transport considered, and made the easiest, following health, social and environmental goals for complete communities, prior to forcing new development to hope in a car to get anywhere.Height is not a bad thing, so long as municipal servicing is available, parking and light impacts have been considered. We must hold firm on having ground floor space available for commercial/mixed uses - unlike the Pratt development on Cundles. Incentives for green roof type ideas.
    • Admin Commented Eterry over 1 year ago
      Great insight! Hope you can come out to the Workshop on April 17.
    • barrie_for_cyclists over 1 year ago
      I agree with this - the concept of garages in front is what acts as a barrier to many. As we gain more second suites in our neighbourhoods, these come with more cars and congestion. Driveways widen and more vehicles clog the streets and overhang the sidewalks. If we want to sit out in front to connect with our community neighbours, we have more pollution and noisy traffic to contend with. Barrie needs to move away from its car-centric culture rapidly, yet I don’t see this happening. How can we encourage cutizens to give up their cars?
      • barrie_for_cyclists over 1 year ago
      • Janet S over 1 year ago
        I don't think we will be able to give up cars for a long time because public transit links to other cities (except for Toronto) are lacking. I would hate to use rental cars to which I am unaccustomed for other destinations and want to avoid the legal hassles which can arise with rentals. When a car belongs to me I can have it insured and maintained according to my terms. If it's scratched, that's not a big deal. There are no unpleasant surprises with using my own car. With rental cars, you need all day to read the fine print. Even then the terms may not be as you expect. I've heard horror stories about rental cars. I'll keep on owning my car until I can enjoy the countryside and other cities by public transit. Remember in the planning of Barrie that larger numbers of seniors are often past the option of long walks and biking....and getting to London by bike is a bit of drain on one's energy.
        • Admin Commented Eterry over 1 year ago
          Hi Janet, thank you for raising this issue. An expanded regional transportation network will take time as well as coordination from Metrolinx and other partners. The City of Barrie continues to work towards improving our local transit system to meet the needs of our residents and explore opportunities to improve connections to the regional network.
          • Janet S over 1 year ago
            Perhaps there could be better policies to enable us to use rental cars, but I don't feel safe with using those at this time. Too much fine print. A friend had an accident with his leased car and he ended up paying monthly for a replacement as well as continuing to pay the entire lease period on the wrecked car - though the leasing company got the insurance on it! I guess he didn't read the fine print! Other stories come out also and these situations turn us off on selling our cars.
  • Janet S over 1 year ago
    Wonderful places for people to connect (and which can include public benches) would be community gardens. I've been reading too that some types of plants and trees remove pollutants. We should plant as many as possible. Rather than selling parking lots, we could have green space. I like the idea of roof gardens also.
  • Julie Waddell over 1 year ago
    HI - not sure where to put this suggestion/request ... how can we put a city policy in place to have more trees planted when pavement is put down for parking lots?Park Place is one huge parking lot without trees for shade over the hot pavement...the hospital also...Molson Centre also ... the new parking lots at South Shore.How can we put a policy in place that states for every 20 square feet of pavement, there has to be a shade tree on the drawings for approval?
  • Mymishu over 1 year ago
    Intensify means to me a push to build when in fact we really need to back off and pay attention to what we really have and what needs to be fixed. People move hete because the cannot afford where they live or want to go smaller, however, the same thing is happening here. We keep growing, growing and more growing so we build for them instead of building more affordable housing for those who need it and believe me there are more than 850 people who need it and if we follow the guidelines that were presented to us and we actually beat the half way point for a 3 to 10 year proposal then My friends and council we failed and will continue to fail for eternity. (My apologies as I cannot remember the actual year amount) We will never catch up. However you say that bringing more people will help well yes and no - more money into coffers more roadways to maintain and pipes, cables, snowplowing, and more intense traffic thus more guarded traffic flow then more police etc. It never ends. We still have the same old problems. It is like ifvwe brake it all down to what governments tell us to do is budget and plan, So i build a home and two years later 4 peole come to live with me however houese is too smal so now I expand adding more rooms and plumbing, electricity and more parking space. Then it happens 2 year later again however you see there is a problem that has arisen. With all tbis growth and i still had not finished what I started 6 years ago so a problem has arisen as I have not been able to keep up with the growth. To be able to keep up I raise the rent which only allows me to get some stuff done however not all of it. It becomes a vicious circle. Why do we force our own neighbors out when it was them in the first place who helped their city grow to a comfortable place they enjoyed. Now they want to downgrade however after house is sold and tbey pay off what is needed they cannot afford anything over $300,000 plus still live that comfortable life they had previous in order to enjoy their free time. Realestate comes in and says have you thought about Midland or Orillia. No was born in Orillia do not wish to go back and Midland is too far from everyone I know. So in effect they do not have a choice. Once people could retire in their home town and now more and more must leave, and God help you if you have a disability and the money that is left over from the sale must be used to help you live in your golden years well - if it is under $275 you might be lucky, the homeless we have here is a shame. We could have renovated a number of building that were in good condition and made low income apartments to help those who need it, with this you put a responsibility clause in where if they are able to work then there is ground maintenance etc to be done or street and garbage cleanup that the city needs help with. We must also remember that if a person lost their job and cannot find another then there is a very big chance if nothing has been found within a month you can be rest assured that depression has set in however we know the numbers are stacked against these people getting help so again these numbers increase. So while it is nice that some folk in the community come forward to help those through fires etc if a community was doinf a proper job of looking after it's citizens we would find housing and jobs for those folk to help them and our community instead of passing the buck and laws outlawing homeless People. Do not say it cannot be done because it can be be and I have read if places who have been doing this as they are walking their talk. So let us back up and really put our priorities straight, get them working then if all is running smoothly you must decide how big you really want to be. However, if you look around, oh you so call wise ones, and look very close - big cities do not really work as their problems just keep getting bigger because they didn't take the time to really read between the lines and put the actual wishes of their community at large into consideration. Yes Barrie is guilty of that.
    • Admin Commented Jordan Lambie over 1 year ago
      Hi Mymishu - thanks for the feedback. This engagement website is exactly that - a dialogue to identify community values and goals and to consider how they can be achieved as the city grows. We want to hear from you about what the key community values and experiences are.We understand that time is of the essence for both growth and affordability issues, and as you note in your comment - demand and growth will not just simply stop or disappear. So, how do we want to shape our growth to achieve community goals? Growing more compactly and efficiently, rather than sprawling outwardly, can help us accommodate growth while also saving land and natural resources and reduce our spending on infrastructure expansion & maintenance. More units in a square area also means that more public dollars are available to be dedicated to building and maintaining community facilities such as parks, libraries and community centres. Intensification can also add different building, unit, and ownership types to the real estate market at lower and more affordable price points than single detached homes, for example. This diversity of product types in the market will provide more choices to residents to better match their financial or lifestyle needs. The City recognizes there is a shortage of affordable housing, in particular affordable rental housing, and has a number of initiatives and development applications underway to address the problem. More information on that particular issue can be found here: Thanks again for your comment and feedback.
  • LizAndrews over 1 year ago
    Like most people, I would like to have a downtown core that is well cared for and bustling with shops and restaurants, as well as public space for gardens and general beautification. I am concerned, however, about this term 'intensification' and the way it is being used as a sort of blanket term for inarguable positive change. Intensification is not necessarily a good thing for many people - it seems to coincide with gentrification and the displacement of poor and marginalized citizens into other Wards as a method of avoiding the problem of low income and homelessness, etc. This strategy, coinciding with 'intensification' has been used in Honolulu, New York, and Miami as a way of driving 'undesirable' people away from areas that builders are interested in developing because of their income potential. The costs of living in these 'intensified' areas become prohibitive for many working people. I think most of us in Barrie would be happy to see a vibrant, safe, mixed-use city center. But I'm troubled by the city's apparent lack of any plan to deal with homelessness and addiction beyond shunting 'undesirable' people into other locations. So, I'm not sure what the solution would be, because it requires first a political will to recognize the contours of the problem and to consider different ways of dealing with it. This is not meant to be taken as a wholesale criticism, but I do wonder who this development plan serves aside from business interests. I have wondered this for a long time now, as plans to completely rearrange the downtown (including changing how and where transportation is accessed) have seemed to be in the works for some time now.
    • LizAndrews over 1 year ago
      (I should clarify that I am not saying working people and the poor are addicts. I think the relationship between poverty and addiction is complicated. I meant to say that the downtown core seems to be an understandable spot for drugs, and so on, which is not to say that the poor and working people are addicts!)
      • Kristen over 1 year ago
        Hello Liz! Did you get chance to drop by the intensification meeting on Tuesday? This was brought up by a few people and it was explained that a lot of the buildings in the intensification plans include subsidized and affordable housing incorporated into the buildings, rather than as dedicated buildings - as often happens. I have similar concerns and was happy to see that this was included but I think a lot of these issues are way deeper than places to live or the way the city builds... maybe the province will make progresses in the healthcare, substance abuse, disability and unemployment services areas at the same time as we are building! I myself would just be happy if there was a place in this city I love, that I could afford to buy...
    • Admin Commented Eterry over 1 year ago
      Hi Liz! The City appreciates your perspective. Providing diversity in housing choices is a top priority for the City. We believe that intensification can help introduce development that would provide more affordable housing options for all residents. You can find out more information about our Affordable Housing Strategy here: We encourage you to help continue the conversation at our next workshop on May 8th.
  • Kristen over 1 year ago
    I would like to see intensification make room for folks in Barrie to connect better to other people and to the land in and around the city.I like these images because many of the people are outside, but the reality of Barrie is - we have winter! We need inside spaces to connect as well. An indoor farmers/craft market (think Halifax & Ottawa) with local artisans would be amazing! More places for live music, public transportation to and from these locations, outdoor spaces where people can gather and engage in spontaneous celebration and outdoor places where I can use the space for free or choose to pay for an experience would be amazing! What about snowshoe rentals in Sunnidale Park, cross country ski rentals at Kempenfelt beach, or cleared skating trails and rinks at heritage park? We could have something that rivals Huntsville's skate trail or Ottawa's canal skate on our lakeshore - this might even get me out of hibernation!I would also like to see more emphasis on local food and products. I know that there is always a need for a Sobeys type store, but can we also provide more opportunities for smaller, more locally minded places? For example, what can Barrie do to attract a Farm Boy? Barrie is expanding and eating up farmland to do it. It's necessary, but we should be doing what we can to make sure that the farmers and land that are left are supported. Bring your Business to Barrie - we are loud, local and proud!
  • Prajna over 1 year ago
    Creating a sense of community is important to me. Walk-up apartments and shops that face the street and provide porches and patios allow us to wave at our neighbours and socialize. Too often our streets are just places to pass through, when they could be destinations and places to make memories.